Lilith: Adam’s first wife story


I am so excited about my discovery of Lilith
Adam’s first wife!
*surprise*
Yes, he had a first wife
According ofcourse to a Jew Legend
And ofcourse, denied by Jews, Christians and Muslims
back to the reason of my excitement
I guess it is mostly because I love gossips!
(I love dirty little secrets ;))
and what’s best to gossip about, than the father of human kind?
(ok just in the eyes of Jews, Christians, and Muslims)

So I went over her wikipedia’s page, and read the whole story
and I ll summarize it here

El gesa o ma feeha ya khook (the story yo brother)
First God created both Adam and Lilith from soil
Adam and Lilith immediately began to fight
Guess why?
Because they disagreed who would lie bottom when they have sex!!!
Do you guys have this problem when you have sex?
I mean who would bottom and who would top?
I thought it would be a problem only in same-sex encounters
Anyway
Adam claimed that Lilith body only fit for the bottom position
and thus, he proclaimed superiority
(obviously he didn’t watch any porn!)
(I personally know a couple of other fit positions, right guys?)
But Lilith refused to abide with his cocky behaviour
She said
“You are a closed-minded, sexist, Arabic, backward mentality pig!
At this age of equality, I refuse to live my life with a man like you”
She claimed to be equal to him
Both were created from sand
(later on, Adam’s children claimed that Lilith was crearted from fire so that to demonize her)

She LEFT him!
He felt so lonely
He wept for God to bring her back
So God send 3 investigative angels to find her
Senoy, Sansenoy and Semangelof
They found her and asked her to return to Adam
She said: “OVER MY DEAD BODY”
Obviously she refused
So they gave her a choice
Either to come back with them to Adam, or to allow them to kill 100 of her children each day!
(I wonder how many children did they have? or those were from another man beside Adam? and what is this savage revenge for the ego of Adam?)
BTW, those 100 children later on were percieved as demons
That is why some people believe that 100 demon die each day!

Lilith seemed to hate Adam so much!
Because she agreed on the second condition rather than going back to him!
(I BET she was a lesbian)!

Anyway,
Because she got tormented later on for the death of her children
She started killing babies Adam’s descendents
and thus she appears in our Arabic culture as the Karina
Al Karina is a child stealing and child killing witch
“When the woman becomes pregnant is when Karina will cause her chaos.
She will try to drive the woman out and take her place,
cause a miscarriage by striking the woman
and if the woman succeeds in having children
then her Karina will have the same amount of children she does”

Weirdly enough
I remember my mother having a Karina!
She swears that whenever she used to get pregnant
There is a woman who used to hunt her in nightmares all through her pregnancy
trying to kill the child she was carrying
Awful nightmares
For once the Karina succeeded in killing the baby my mother was carrying
when my mother woke up in the morning, she had a miscarriage!
Does anyone know other women going through this in their pregnancy?

I am not sure how much this karina related to Lilith
and how much she is a psychological illusion rather than a true soul of Lilith hunting pregnant woman
It just makes me wonder how much truth lies in this story!

ops, I forget to mention Eve
Later on Adam begged God to give him another woman
and so God created Eve from Adam’s rib
Obviously Eve resided with her natural fit
and obeyed Adam
He never loved her the same way he loved Lilith
But both women set the original templates for women for ages
The virgin vs The prostitute
Dominated women versus liberated ones

Equality of gender and its implications…

36 thoughts on “Lilith: Adam’s first wife story

  1. Dude, it’s enough to think of the theology that has been accepted by the world to add some crazy mythology to the mix!As for the Qarina, which is a term used in conjunction with the Jin. These Qara2en can be male or female and can be around a person. Some claim they even marry humans. But it’s all superstitious nonsense.Anyway, the other crazy idea is the sex part. As far as the story goes, Adam and Eve didn’t know how to do things until they ate the Apple! So how could Adam ask Lilith and later on disagree on the position that he likes! Weird! How could he disagree on something he didn’t even do yetThis whole thing is a mockery of religions by the way, depicting god as a Creation pimp getting Adam women as he needs!PS: Sexists are not necessarily Arabs, in fact, Arabs wouldn’t exist for few thousand years after Adam

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  2. a bit of mythology can’t kill any one but this is just new stuff for me! I mean how come all 3 holy books ignored her ? why didn’t we hear any other religion mention her * other than abrahamic religions that agree on the story of Adam and Eve to some extent* and how come god allowed her to kill babies in heaven?! *no one gets killed in heaven , it won’t be heaven in the first place :-\*and if a few remained alive why didn’t they come down on earth with their father and step mommy?!God will never force a woman to have sex if she didn’t want to and pleasing adam’s needs is not God’s biggest concern ! And I have to agree with qwaider about them not doing it ’till they ate the apple! They never paid attention to that part of their bodies untill they ate the apple and once they did they tried to cover their bodies! They didn’t screw around in heaven! As to the qarina part I heard el jarat * I eardrop some times!* b7ko 3anha bas I think it is 7aki fadi , if sum1 had a miscarriage 4 times in 3 years it is simply because she is exahusting her body not because el jara 7akat eno 3ndha qarina!ur story needs lots of investigations! not everything on wiki is true! they themselves ask u to edit some of their stuff if u cud !

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  3. hmm …. i love lilith for being a third wave feminist. the story of the disagreement i recall was about who would be pregnant … but then again am hazy about lilith lilith is part of jewish “mythology” which islamic lore draws upon heavily . just like that little bit about ismael taming the first horse and speaking arabic so i wouldn’t totally disregard it. as for the part about it not being in the bible, is not entirely true since the symbol for lylith is the owl and there is a verse in the bible that refers to lilith in that manner (which makes it a bit less of mythology) but the full story is more explored in khabalah mythology . Isaiah 34:14 is the verse …that is said to refer to her.just to note quran never mentions eve by name or how she was “created” so it does leave room for interpretations

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  4. yay … so 7aki fadi is lilith😛ok answering <>lost within<> the old testament references her (according to opinion) but it is an integral part of jewish tradition (they make babies wear angel’s name for the first 20 days to ward her off, muslims have a similar tradition too) plus they have two accounts of creation that are consolidated by the presence of lilith (one of a joined creation that is both male and female and then that was split and another of a female that came from adams rib) there were no babies as in human babies in heaven … there was creatures in the period between lilith and eve according to jewish mythology. pleasing adams needs is the sole reason she was created from a religious point of view (all 3 say that) for it is told that adam was lonely and thats why eve was created …

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  5. Fadi, you are a very creative thinker! Just the fact that Lilith and Adam were fighting over ‘positions’ tells me this is just another fairy tale made up by a frustrated man with identity issues.🙂Lost Within…don’t worry, the whole Lilith legend wasn’t the same timing as when the Torah was written. The books of the Bible and Torah were verified and authenticated by many scholars of the time, extra-biblical scholarship and archeological evidence.They have criteria about no variant texts, original language, etc. Lilith has many variations on the story, no origin anywhere near the time of the authentic texts. there is no cover-up here, same reason why the story of Rapunzel was not added to the first printed Bible, it just doesn’t have anything to do with the faith. Qwaider, who says Adam and Eve didnt’ have sex? Remember, when God finished with her, the pinnacle of His creation, He was done! He said it was ‘very good’. It wasn’t until the Fall that they became ashamed of their nakedness. I’m sure they froliced in that garden like crazy!

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  6. Hi Bam, we are typing at the same time.🙂Yes, lilith is mentioned in Isaiah, although owl isn’t the best translation, ‘screeching spirit’ may be better. Sort of like ‘leviathon’, a word that doesn’t seem to have an exact translatable alternative.That said, because Lilith is not mentioned in the creation accounts, I don’t see she has a place there, certainly not to build this whole theology around indeed. It is completely legend.God didn’t create Eve just for Adam’s pleasure, I mean He created her with bits just for her pleasure apart from procreation. The whole point was that every other creature had a counterpart, and even with the perfect friendship Adam had with God, without a counterpart he was lonely.The whole no sex in Eden thing sounds like medieval Catholic doctrine. Why were they so anti-sex?

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  7. Kinzi : Well there must be sex in eden ! what is the use of virgins up there ?! but Adam and Eve didn’t have sex there ! Atleast this is what I think !

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  8. Qwaider, it was a joke about sexist arabs. I was just trying to give the story a modern dimension🙂. I guess as Kinzi said, they used to have sex before eating the apple but maybe they weren’t percieve it as a dirty think untill they started knowing the difference between good and evil.I dont believe in Qarina either, but it is kind of weird the stories my mom tells in her pregnancies. I guess it is just tiresome the appears for pregnent women in a form of other woman. Lost within, this is new stuff for me too. Interesting, isnt it?Some argue that Eden is a place in earth. It isnt something in the sky the way we percieve it. As your jarat more about the qarina and give us more stories🙂no_angel, thanks for mentioning those parts in the bible and quran. It is all written in lilith page on wiki. I love the feminist part of lilith too🙂

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  9. Kinzi, yeah, it is kind of weird the emphasize on positions in the story. But according to wiki, the story was presented in Nabukhaznassar time. He wanted a jew man to cure his dying child, and so he told him the story of Lilith and how writing the names of those angels would help protecting the child. Thanks for pointing out that Adam and Eve used to have sex before realising good and evil. I never thought about that before🙂Marie, thanks for clapping🙂. I dont know how much truth is in there either, and I dont see much difference between it and Adam and Eve story. That one could be a myth either. I just love what it resresents, and it did make me think too🙂

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  10. <>kinzi 1<> i beg to differ kinzi, there are variants to the story even with the rules set. If anything they were mathematically challenged. couple of examples .. children of michal daughter of saul, and even on bigger issues. scribal errors are dime a dozen when it comes to numbers.<>kinzi 2<> i love that middle age catholic mentality line. that said, jews have telmud along with the torah, christianity has the bible. while it isn’t part of the christian tradition it could be found in the jewish one. so yeah there is no reason to relate it to the account of creation based on that but all am saying that the reference didn’t come out of nothing and thats the origin of it thats all. speaking of leviathons, i always wondered about how a unicorn made it there. as for eve, am just stating the case without expanding on it, he was bored so eve came then when they fell the effect was the pain of pregnancy and labor. cheers, i kinda never thought we would be discussing this here😛

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  11. Well, Bam, I have to admit although I’ve always know about Lilith my knowledge is limited to the Wiki page and a couple interesting links from Google. No time to further investigate.Errors in transcribing are a dime a dozen, but it seems this Lilith tale has as many angles as King Arthur and Lancelot. Contrast it, say with other stretches of the imagination like the parting of the Red Sea, David and Goliath, even the two creation accounts, it is pretty much the same thing recorded since things were recorded.Fadi yes, the whole deal was ‘mentioned’ in Nebuchanezer’s time, but as you say, it is part of tradition. That’s my point. I’m not saying the Lilith legend isn’t valid as a legend or tradition, just not as canononical writing.I’m glad, too, as she sounds like one scary entity. I wouldn’t be surprised if she exists in demon form. I can’t believe we are discussing ‘this’ either. Only on Fadi’s blog does this happen…😀

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  12. yup kinzi legend and lore not canonical, and like you i don’t have much more info about her. as for the variants, i wasn’t meaning to relate it to its lilith i was mainly commenting on you saying that there aren’t any variants while there are, thats all.

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  13. Seriously reguardless of anyyyyything this is the fact the bible the torah the koran whateverrrrr it is * ITS HOW U INTERPERT IT*!!!! N that’s it basically how many stories were left otta the bible? Seriously…all these books were written by man worte it down how they saw fit how they interperted the facts or life as they saw it…But here’s what I think * imagination is reality* everyyyyyything in life periodddd was thought of first then made real… dude that thing about mom dukes whoaaaa be careful where u lay you faith. U might find yaself completly scared of living cause all these stupastitions lol nah but I feel you it is crazy…but seriously for some weirdddd gut feeling I feel this lilith female is n was real but the whole story in itself not completly true…I guess like alotta stories in life they get twisted to fit that one persons views of it…and shit 100 kids? Then dammmm she must be having only n mostly boys cause women out number us 5 to 1 lol… ok I’m out be ez peoples…

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  14. Anonymous says:

    Seriously reguardless of anyyyyything this is the fact the bible the torah the koran whateverrrrr it is * ITS HOW U INTERPERT IT*!!!! N that’s it basically how many stories were left otta the bible? Seriously…all these books were written by man worte it down how they saw fit how they interperted the facts or life as they saw it…But here’s what I think * imagination is reality* everyyyyyything in life periodddd was thought of first then made real… dude that thing about mom dukes whoaaaa be careful where u lay you faith. U might find yaself completly scared of living cause all these stupastitions lol nah but I feel you it is crazy…but seriously for some weirdddd gut feeling I feel this lilith female is n was real but the whole story in itself not completly true…I guess like alotta stories in life they get twisted to fit that one persons views of it…and shit 100 kids? Then dammmm she must be having only n mostly boys cause women out number us 5 to 1 lol… ok I’m out be ez peoples…

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  15. Anonymous says:

    Seriously reguardless of anyyyyything this is the fact the bible the torah the koran whateverrrrr it is * ITS HOW U INTERPERT IT*!!!! N that’s it basically how many stories were left otta the bible? Seriously…all these books were written by man worte it down how they saw fit how they interperted the facts or life as they saw it…But here’s what I think * imagination is reality* everyyyyyything in life periodddd was thought of first then made real… dude that thing about mom dukes whoaaaa be careful where u lay you faith. U might find yaself completly scared of living cause all these stupastitions lol nah but I feel you it is crazy…but seriously for some weirdddd gut feeling I feel this lilith female is n was real but the whole story in itself not completly true…I guess like alotta stories in life they get twisted to fit that one persons views of it…and shit 100 kids? Then dammmm she must be having only n mostly boys cause women out number us 5 to 1 lol… ok I’m out be ez peoples…

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  16. Anonymous says:

    Seriously reguardless of anyyyyything this is the fact the bible the torah the koran whateverrrrr it is * ITS HOW U INTERPERT IT*!!!! N that’s it basically how many stories were left otta the bible? Seriously…all these books were written by man worte it down how they saw fit how they interperted the facts or life as they saw it…But here’s what I think * imagination is reality* everyyyyyything in life periodddd was thought of first then made real… dude that thing about mom dukes whoaaaa be careful where u lay you faith. U might find yaself completly scared of living cause all these stupastitions lol nah but I feel you it is crazy…but seriously for some weirdddd gut feeling I feel this lilith female is n was real but the whole story in itself not completly true…I guess like alotta stories in life they get twisted to fit that one persons views of it…and shit 100 kids? Then dammmm she must be having only n mostly boys cause women out number us 5 to 1 lol… ok I’m out be ez peoples…

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  17. Anonymous says:

    i really love the story about lilith and she is in the bible Isaiah 34:14Wildcats shall meet with hyenas,goat-demons shall call to each other;there too *Lilith* shall repose,and find a place to rest.There shall the owl nestand lay and hatch and brood in its shadow

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  18. Anonymous says:

    women and lilith have common similarities.they only want to be treated as equals.adam was a rapist who had sex with animals.then no wonder she left.but for god to punish her by taking 1000 or 100 of her children everyday.what a prick.they say she will have her revenge.i hope she does.they say theres no death in heaven.then why are they fighting to take away our human souls?long live lilitu.

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  19. Anonymous says:

    lilith comes and fucks me brains out while i sleep.she takes my seed and empregnates women who are total strangers.wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

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  20. Anonymous says:

    i adore this story! ive been looking for a good name to use in a novel im writing and this is SO perfect for me, im not too fond of bible stories… or the bible, or anything related ^_^ selfish self-justifying chains i will gladly never wear. adorable woman, she will be perfect,

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  21. Anonymous says:

    THERE IS NOW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE ONLY ONE GOD!!!! HE IS PERFECT AND CARING AND WOULD NEVER HURT ANYONE. YOU IDIOTS TALKING TRASH ABOUT GOD ARE PATHETIC. I PRAY GOD FORGIVES YOU FOR YOUR SINS. HE LOVES YOU, ALWAYS. I CAN NOT BELIEVE HOW IGNORANT SOME PEOPLE ARE. EVERY TIME YOU TAKE A BREATH IT IS A GIFT FROM GOD.

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  22. Anonymous says:

    what is the true idea of religon. Should it not be to be the best person you can be.Kind non judging,to treat others how you would want to be treated.Any God I could belive in would never do or be like his or her many followers of today.Hate,spite , mean and evil.So I say God has never existed,and no person on earth could ever prove he did. These are only books to help you live a better life ,and to make you think of something other than yourself.Even though in todays world thier is not much evidence that any book about religion has had good long term effects. They have managed to keep every one in the darkness of despire.

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  23. Anonymous says:

    Ok.. First off this story is not True. Yes there was a Lilith, but this woman is not only in the Old Testament, she is in a lot of different civilizations as a demon, or some even consider a Goddess. Yes a Goddess. I have no Idea where you heard this version but it is not true. The stories that are in the Old Testament were all taken from the Sumerians dating all the way back to 4000 BC. The sumerians have called this woman a demon, and somewhat of a Succubus. But in the old testament in Hebrew, Adam is created of Sand, then is set to Marry the local Goddess Lilith. They become married, and have sex but no children. God started to realize that Lilith was not right, and exposed her as a Demon. Well this caused God to cast her out of Eden, and to replace Lilith God took Adams Rib and created Eve. When Eve came along, Lilith was furious, and she then took the shape of a seperent (Hence the Serpent in the story).As the serpent Lilith went to Eve, and tricked into the eating the fruit from the Tree Of Knowledge, causing Adam and Eve to be casted out of the Garden. This made Lilith very happy, and she followed Adam and Eve everywhere they went. When Adam and Eve had Cain and Able, Lilith grew jealous again, and came to Cain telling him that God loved Able more then him, and Cain grew jealous, and as you know eventually kills Able. When Adam became aware of Cains sin, he left on a journey for salvation in the Desert. When Adam was along Lilith came to him, and Adam could not resist Lilith and they had a lot of sex. Eve of course didnt know, but when Adam had sex with Lilith, he brought on demons an misery to himself. Again Lilith came to him and Adam could not resist, they had more sex, and Lilith bore Adams children, creating a second Bloodline. True some of the children turned into Demons but not all of them. So we may have descendents from Lilith on this Earth right now. After this story Lilith is not mentioned much, but in the New Testament she is seen as a screech owl. Hope that helps. Email me if you got something to say. shankozwell@yahoo.com. No spam Please.

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  24. Anonymous says:

    Hi, Yesterday I was watching “History Chanel” in religious studies about torak old books they mentioned Lilith like the first Adam “wife”. I couldn’t watch the complete program because I had visit at home, that is the reason I started to googled trying to find more info. That is a serious chanel with serious investigations they said the Lilith name appair in the first book but with the time they started to talk less and try to say “its a legend”.

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  25. Anonymous says:

    Hi, Yesterday I was watching “History Chanel” in religious studies about torak old books they mentioned Lilith like the first Adam “wife”. I couldn’t watch the complete program because I had visit at home, that is the reason I started to googled trying to find more info. That is a serious chanel with serious investigations they said the Lilith name appair in the first book but with the time they started to talk less and try to say “its a legend”.

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  27. Anonymous says:

    youn are truely a sexist pig and no she didn't want to “do” for god she wanted love and at the time god was vengeful and cursed her to the land of NOD which is an excellent book. where her and Kane “the one who slaughtered Able” were to be the parents of the damned have you ever played Vampire masquerade? Hello that game rocks and i'm a female, but i am extremly into the idea of vampires. Lilith would not bow to any man she would be equal to or above a man. That is why she had such a fit about Adam thinking men are in charge. Eve is also where blondes probably started, and why females are called idiots. Blondes have gotten smarter over the years. even though i am not one i have moments. I am amazed by the idiots who worship god, he raped sweet mother mary or more believable is that on their venture that they accually did eachother ran away she said hey i'm pregnant we aren't married what do we do? one of them comes up with blame god. their are more exciting books than the bible and the bible was written to keep good little girls and boys from being bad, and added a bunch of lies it's no different than telling a kid santa isn't coming this year you were bad. and most religions were stolen from gypses, druids, wiccans and such. Remember the reason us females and men suffer every month when a girl is going through her period, blame that on god for a crazy lady “Eve” talking to a snake.

    By- Erin

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  28. Anonymous says:

    another thing the forbidden fruit was a bananna how else would adam had wanted to eat the fruit so bad with eve tempting him in slutty ways. If any part of the bible is true then we females are punished so harshly because of this. Ha Ha Ha Ha

    By- Erin

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  29. Anonymous says:

    I heard a khutba where the shiek said the husband tells his wife over the phone he loves her while he sits with his girlfriend. Shame on all of us. I was number one in the nation for marketing fadi. o well! I love fun with achievement. God give me number one in the world as richest women in the world. now? ta da thanks

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  30. Anonymous says:

    @ lost within, Plenty of reason to have virgins in eden, Keeps my trying to lead a good life, while waiting for my turn at the Vestal virgins.

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  31. Anonymous says:

    no thats where people are wrong, god forbid adam and eve to eat from the apple tree. the story of lilith even though there little to go on didnt say anything about her eating the from the tree. so if lilith left cause of the sex postition and any other reasons it is possible that they didnt know what was sex it was jjust instinct and like the person this said if they were really male and female then being on top or bottom shouldn’t matter even if it is a superior thing.. people just want to refuse the fact that the story that the churches say isn’t the full truth. there’s more to the past than we ever know. but like the saying goes the truth will always reveals it self.

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